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Look up the movie Wavelength. It's based on a totally true story. Have you seen it? It's based on an incident that took place at Hunter Liggett. This is a hot one.
No. Where’s Hunter Liggett?
90 miles south-south-east of Monterey, California. My primary station at the time was Fort Ord. I was working there back in the early 70s, when I was in the military, and I was working under CDCEC, which is Combat Developments Command Experimentation Command. You can go look that up. We were doing testing of all kinds of devices, and we lived out in the field there. We wore laser protection goggles a lot of the time and we had our eyes dialated routinely to check our retinas for burns. Some of the cattle in the fields even wore modified goggles! This was the most bizarre sight you could ever imagine. Well, one day something happened while we were testing. A disk came into the area and it was hovering, it hovered right directly in front of us, out in a field. So [pause] we shot the ****ing thing down.
You shot down a disk?
[shaking head] We should never have done it. It wasn't me personally, but the group did. Between us we had all this gizmo weaponry and I guess they panicked and thought they were in a movie or something. The disk was disabled and it was captured, and so were the occupants, and I saw these very briefly. They were small child-like humanoids, with no hair. And they had small eyes, not large almond-shaped eyes. I don't think anyone knows about this. As far as I know it's not on the internet.
This is incredible. I've never heard of this incident.
Most of the other witnesses ended up in Vietnam and many were killed. I may be the only living witness to what happened... I don't know.
The rest of the story is in a sci-fi movie called Wavelength, which was released in the early '80s. I'd never heard of it until I ran into it years later, in Arizona. Did I just say this? [laughs, for the first time]
When I saw the video, I was expecting some, you know, light entertainment with a beer or two, but I mean, my mouth just hung wide open. The beginning of the film just completely clearly and accurately describes the incident, and the film is very close to the rest of the story, including the use of an abandoned Nike base in Southern California to store them.
Go find it. It's all basically true. I was just amazed when I saw it. The person who wrote it must have been there, or knew someone who was there. But I don't know who.
I had a genuine alien photo once. I showed it to someone, a woman, a very talented woman, who was a microbiologist working for one of the agencies. It scared the s*** out of her. I couldn't believe it. She just didn't want to deal with it at all. And I’d say that just suggests that the public, even scientists aren't ready for this information to be released. And this person was really smart. It didn't stop her from freaking out, just not wanting to know. She was just, you know, totally spooked.
Do you still have the photo? Can we see it?
I don't know. I may still have it somewhere, and if I can find it, I'll forward it to you.
Can you describe it?
It showed a small being with dark skin, kind of black and wrinkled. He was a sole survivor of an incident. But he died shortly afterwards. He had a suit that was self-healing, ah... self-repairing. It was a kind of fabric, or something, that would actually repair itself. And he had an artifact with him that was some kind of remote control device, and that was taken away from him.
He was the survivor of a crash?
A time traveler?
You know everything, don't you?
No, but you're giving us verification.
I mean, it's just so incredibly complicated. It's so complex it's possible that no one person has all the information. Most of the agencies don't know what the other agencies know and everything is heavily compartmentalized right up the wazoo. No-one talks to anyone else about this stuff. Sometimes entire projects are duplicated at the cost of God knows how many billions because the existence of the other project is unknown, it's kept from them. I mean, I'm a scientist, and scientists sometimes have one arm tied behind their backs because they can't communicate freely. In fact, they can't communicate at all [laughs]. And there are dozens, hundreds of classified projects, I mean major ones. It's just a total mess.
Look, there are many groups of ETs, and besides our own ancestors are mixed in there. There are time loops upon time loops, and it's all a mess. You'd need an IQ of 190 to figure it all out.